Residents from across Connecticut filled the Westport Library’s Trefz Forum last night. They were there for “An American Conversation: How Public Policy is Putting Our Children at Risk.”
Moderated by Christine Dolan, chief investigative correspondent for CD [Creative Destruction] Media, it promised to be an “in-depth analysis of critical issues about ‘the story behind the headlines.'”
Though promotional material included topics like “exponential increase in youth deaths from fentanyl,” and “alarming increase in suicides of young people,” Dolan and the 5 panelists spent nearly all their time speaking about COVID, vaccines, big pharmaceutical companies and governmental tyranny.
Dolan opened by discussing organ trafficking. Then — after sharply warning against any use of cell phones for photos, or videotaping — she showed a hidden camera video from a meeting of the North American Man Boy Love Association.
“At the end of the day,” she warned, “the goal is to decriminalize pedophilia. This is a political agenda” through which the government wants children to learn about sex.
Dolan noted that she had been called a racist, by someone in Westport. She countered, “I was a spokesperson for Nelson Mandela’s 1990 United States tour.”
Panelists were Mary Holland, chief counsel of Children’s Health Defense; Kevin Jenkin,s, CEO of Urban Global Health Alliance; Elana Fishbein, founder of No Left Turn; Bob Hamer, a retired FBI agent who infiltrated NAMBLA, and Dr. Peter McCullough (no affiliation listed).
McCullough — a cardiologist — slammed the medical profession for its reaction to COVID. “You all can play a role in the resolution of this issue,” he told the audience, urging them to tell their doctors that they oppose vaccines.
The “pain scale” used in hospitals — which nurses utilize — has caused opiod problems, he said.
“Something in the minds of people causes them to think irrationally. And doctors are the heart of the problem.” He likened the “relentless advancement” of vaccines on patients to issues of “gender confusion and pornography.”
This is not just an American problem. “It’s global.”
McCullough continued, “Our government agencies have turned against our population.” He said that the Department of Defense and defense contractors are prominent booster of vaccines.
Holland said, “We are sprinting toward the apocalypse. You, not doctors, can turn this around. I will not be putting my child through this indoctrination.”
Westport Library audience for last night’s “American Conversation.”
Dolan blamed the loss of investigative journalism for a lack of media attention to the issues she and the panel highlighted. She cited Phil Donahue — apparently not knowing he is a former Westporter — as a former investigative journalist she admired.
She did note another prominent local resident: former US Food & Drug Administration commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb. “He’s not a good guy,: she said, without elaboration.
Noting that Fairfield County is an affluent area, she said that anyone owning stock in Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson or Glaxo Wellcome was also “part of the problem….A very dark, very black cloud, is putting humanity at risk, for money.”
Fishbein said that children in kindergarten are being taught how to masturbate, and that schools are expanding their services to students — including mental health — without parental consent.
Jenkins — who earlier stated, “All of us on stage are taking a stand against tyranny” — earned strong applause when he told the crowd: “You have no friends. Agencies have abandoned you. if you talk about believing in the flag or our country, they’ve criminalized you.
“And you allow them to do it. You fall back in line. That’s why tyranny keeps coming around.
“I’m stunned that half of this audience is waiting for someone to come rescue you. You must stand in the public square, and raise your voices. They’re coming at you. What are you going to do about it?”
At the end of the day, Dolan added, “God wil judge you.”
“Never turn down a front-row seat for human folly,” Nora Ephron once said. Thanks, Dan, for braving a room of anti-vax Covid-deniers getting high on a few whiffs of the deep state, God, apocalypse, junk science, and pedophilia. Tickets may have been $25 and $100, but it sounds as if there was something for everyone.
This is the creepiest and most disturbing nonsense I have ever heard.
I agree, Dan’s article is nonsense. As an attendee, I am appalled at how poorly written Dan’s account of the event is. Dan, did you even attend or was this what your “friends” told you?
I was there, Lexi. Please point out any inaccuracies in my story.
I’m just going to make myself a cup of coffee and wait here, along with you, for an answer to your question. I suspect it will never arrive.
Hi Russell! I hope you enjoyed your coffee. My response is below. I am flattered you would set aside so much time in your day to hear my side. Have a blessed day.
I think Dan did an excellent job relaying the events of the evening without bias. He made no comment on his own personal feelings about the issues presented and and simply recounted what happened as to allow his readers to form their own opinions and discuss in this forum. Are you saying that his quotes are inaccurate?
I am saying he manipulated the vibe of the evening by taking a handful of quotes out of context to make it look like a panel of extremists. He did not “recount what happened” or he would have touched upon the discussions regarding (i) the fact that the vaccine does not prevent infection or spread of Covid and therefore the mandates serve to benefit no one but bigpharma, (ii) there is indeed a movement to dismantle the nuclear family and prey on children by bringing sex education and inappropriate materials into public schools as young as kindergarten, and (iii) we are facing a mental health crisis in this country that is, again, being driven and manipulated by bigpharma. This is just to name a few points. I found the evening enlightening. The crowd was respectful and every single person who attended (other than for political reasons) was there because they legitimately care about the welfare of their children and loved ones. The comments here are just misguided and sad.
I asked you for evidence to substantiate your assertions. The dictionary defines evidence as:
“the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
“the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination”
1. What you presented was “he manipulated the vibe of the evening…” Fascinating. Were those bad vibrations or “good vibrations”? If you presented that in court you’d be shown out the door. You wouldn’t make the 10th grade debate team either. 2. The vaccine doesn’t protect from exposure and indeed, there are “breakthrough” cases. But no vaccine or medicine or medical procedure is guaranteed to be 100% safe and effective for all recipients. I thought that was common on knowledge for those who have completed high school. 3. You, like Panos, continue to assert something about a “vax mandate”, despite the fact that there never has been any such mandate. Why, you keep repeating this lie? 3. Sipping at the trough of lies and disinformation does not confer upon the attendees validation that they care about their children. Shielding children from science, biology and the truth about their world suggests the opposite. And now, back to my coffee.
Dan’a article is not nonsense. The content of the event is nonsense.
And who are you to tell the parents what to protect their children from??
It may be a “nonsense” for you but not for the rest of us.
On this note, Mr. Woog conveniently overlooked one of the big topics at the event which is child-grooming and pedophilia.
In this very town there are people who shove pornographic and paedophilic books into children’s faces in their public school.
And in this very state politicians in bed with pharmaceutical companies want to inject all kids with experimental drug despite alarmingly high rate of congestive heart failure and sudden deaths among young people.
Katerina, “who are you to tell the parents what to protect their children from??” I’m curious why its ok for you to tell us what to protect our children from but not Shonda?
Lauren, you can make your children read obscene literature where children have sex with one another, have sex with adults, as well as advised to join apps where adults search for partners for sex. You can inject your children with any experimental drug you want. I am not standing on your way. However, I demand a reciprocity from you. Your choices are not my cup of tea. Thanks.
Katerina, I asked you a really simple question – why did you say to Shonda “who are you to tell the parents…” Why can YOU tell us what you think about any particular subject but she can’t do the same?
I find it particularly interesting because she wasn’t disrespectful to any one in her response as you often are evidenced by your response to me.
Excuse you? So, calling yesterday’s meeting of mostly concerned parents “the creepiest and the most disturbing nonsense” is not offensive but my questions are?? You might want to check your moral compass. Also, I now feel threatened by your comment about neighbors as you clearly intended to pin point my residence.
Lastly, if you do not like my description of books shoved into kids faces here in Westport, how come you support such pornographic and pedophilic display? Or pretend it did not take place? If you find a mere description of it as offensive then you should speak up against actual display too. At the end, we must protect our children from harm.
Ok Katerina. You’ve made a lot of claims. Please provide one piece of documentation/evidence/proof that “in this very town there are people who shove pornographic and paedophilic books into children’s faces in the public schools”.
By they way, you’ve also revealed your ignorance on what an “experimental” drug is. When drugs are being researched to determine that they are safe and effective, they are indeed “experimental” and the research study participants are informed of that (and the full risks and benefits of study participation) BEFORE they agree to take that study drug. Only AFTER it has been PROVEN that the drug IS safe and effective is it approved by the FDA and given to patients. At that point, it is no longer “experimental”. The experiment has been completed. That is how science works. Of course, no drug is guaranteed to be safe and effective for every person who takes it. Including aspirin.
Russell, just look into what was displayed at Staples just weeks ago not in one but two displays. And such were literally books where children are having sex including oral sex (in pictures), pedophilic fantasies, as well as an advice for kids to join adult sex apps. Near each display a sigh was posted “these books are banned, find out why” this daring the kids to open up such obscene materials.
As to the drugs, no need to recite to me what big pharma has been pushing. On this note, have you ever wondered why the government shields pharmaceutical companies producing Covid “vaccines” from liability? And why all of the information pertaining to such “vaccines” must be held secret for 75 years?
Again though, the choice should be yours what to administer to your children.
It IS your choice. But a civil society, we require children to vaccinated in order to attend public school in order to protect, you know, the public. You want to send them to private school or home school them? Have at it.
Mr. Russell, you demand compliance in a case where the benefit does not outweighs the risk, especially for children. It is a simple test for all medical procedures and this one should not be an exception. Moreover, information about numerous side-effects, some of which are deadly, should be open to the public not hidden for 75 years. Furthermore, all of those who sustained side-effects should be reimbursed for their injuries to the best extent possible. Instead, the government chose to indemnify pharmaceutical companies. I don’t know about you but such actions scream “tyranny” to me.
No, Katerina. The risks do NOT outweigh the benefits, despite your assertion. It demonstrates that you do not understand how medicines are researched, as overseen by the Institutional Review Boards (IRBs) at academic research centers where that research is often conducted. IRBs are governed by federal regulations that require:
“An IRB consists of at least five members of varying backgrounds. IRB members should have the professional experience to provide appropriate scientific and ethical review. An IRB must have at least one scientist member and at least one member whose primary concerns are nonscientific”.
I’ve worked in the field. You, clearly haven’t and do not know what you are talking about. Your3 just making a lot of noise.
And by the way, the potential side effects are readily available to any individual with any prescription or vaccine. To state otherwise, is, horseshit.
And once again, private employers can require anything they want as a condition of employment. You can choose to comply or work elsewhere. There is NO GENERAL MANDATE TO GET A VACCINE. That is actually bald faced lie.
Funny you say that; Denmark, Norway, Florida health departments have said exactly that; that they don’t recommend vaccinating healthy young
males 18-39 because the risks outweigh the benefits. Moreover, if your head wasn’t where the sun doesn’t shine and you would have paid attention to other sources than the New York Times, CNN and other radical left wing propaganda machines you would have noticed that over 1000 young healthy athletes (especially in football and soccer) have suddenly falling over dead on the fields since Covid jab rollout. Of cause main stream media won’t report on that, but smaller and local ones have. Of cause they don’t give a correlation for fear of back lash and because they can’t proof it but anyone with a functioning brain realizes that the numbers of athletes that have died in the last 1.5 years is exponentially higher than in all the years before.
I also remember reading in the Westport patch shortly after Covid jab rollout almost every week someone was found dead from unkown reasons. To those who can put 2 and 2 together it is pretty obvious that there is a correlation between the sudden uptick of suspicious heart attacks and the previous Covid jab rollout. But to others ignorance is bliss.
Thank you Shonda for your succinct and clear comment! Well said. Please know that Westport is full of rational loving people and parents who agree with you. Watch out for some of your close by neighbors that don’t.
The only people who have watch out in this town are conservative families and their children as they are under constant attacks by radical left starting from child grooming to the defamatory attacks and insults on their parents. In fact, the moderator of the event was called a “fascist bitch” in this very blog in a now edited comment. Luckily for us police still does an amazing job here.
There is no “grooming” going on except in your imagination, which seems to be obsessed with sex, grooming and paedophilia. If I’m wrong, do something besides making baseless allegations. Show us all one shred of evidence for your claims.
Mr. Gontar, plenty of evidence was presented to the public view as well as BOE. The consensus was that materials are in fact, obscene.
Saying “plenty of evidence was presented” is not evidence. That’s a swing and a miss.
You are so ignorant Russel. There is plenty of grooming going on. The very fact that kids in Elementary school or Middle school discuss sex, sexual practices (in MS and HS), gender norms, homosexuality in health classes is very much for that purpose. Add to that the “family-friendly” drag show last June and the shows that were chosen to be shown to Elementary kids (Pilobolous) which was totally weird and inappropriate for kids as young as 5 years old. There is an intention to lower kids moral compass and make them promiscuous. There is a book (among others) in the Staples library called “This is Gay” which was used in Juniors health classes that teaches all kinds of homosexual practices, talks about trans stuff and shows how kids can download sex apps on their phones to hook up with strangers and have sex in saunas. You don’t think that falls in the category of grooming? Also as far as I know there have been at least 3 teachers fires for sexual assault in Westports Public schools in the last few years. One was my daughter’s 5. grade teacher a few years ago who was too creepy to find himself a wife and he kept going after the girls.
Katerina, Katerina, Katerina. Short memory much? You recently called me and a couple of other Woog readers “gay pedophiles.” But consistency is SO HARD, isn’t it? Hypocrisy is easier.
Mr. Prince, Mr. Prince, Mr. Prince, lying again?
I never called anyone a pedophile let alone a “gay pedophile”. However, I did wonder about WHY older and childless man are pushing pornographic and pedophilic books into our children’s faces. Legitimate question to ask, don’t you think?
I’ve got no response but was called a “fascist” instead. Yes, a “fascist” for defending my children.
You and a crew also attacked other parents who objected obscene and dangerous materials to be shoved into their children faces.
You or your friends called them “Christian nationalists”, “terrorists”, “mob”, “podium pirates”, “fascists”.
Sadly, Mr. Woog allows the lunatics to run the asylum in comment sections on his blog.
On this note, former FBI agent yesterday provided great details about how pedophile cells operate. His information resonated a lot with what was presented to the kids at Staples on two displays.
And btw, my question still remains.
Ms. Kireyeva, my husband and I have two children, not that it should matter.
I’ll venture to guess that unfettered access to military assault weapons is just as harmful to youth (and all of us, actually.) If I were a student today, I’d be terrified to go to school….
No words.
Thank you, Dan, for this piece of objective observation about what took place at a meeting open to whomever wanted to hear the message and hopefully listen and then conduct their own investigation into each claim made. It is the first amendment that allows messages and meetings like this to continue and we can only hope that the persistence of strong investigative journalism allows their message to be refuted with no less strong an attack. I have never understood the level of distrust people have for certain institutions backed by evidence while marching in step with organizations powered by rumor and innuendo.
Evan, the reason why you don’t understand those people is because you aren’t willing to look outside of your box. How can you possibly trust any agency and their people who have made millions during the pandemic by making money from the Covid jabs? Research for yourself and look away from left winged media sources which all preach the same message.
Finally, sensible discussion about the craziness going on in the country. 9.5 million negative Doc visits due to severe reactions to the experimental vax and all the CDC can say is, “it’s safe” paaalease! Just stop with the political agenda and share the truth.
What is a “negative Doc visit”?
Las Vegas odds show he’ll never respond.
Panos, let’s cut to he chase, shall we? Who won the 2020 presidential election and for “extra credit”, where were you on 1/6/21? Ok, pick up your number 2 pencil and reply, now!
Child protection? Unfettered access to military assault weapons and the absolute refusal by the right to regulate or ban their use by the general public is more dangerous to children (and all of us, actually) than most of this. Mass shootings are up:
https://www.theviolenceproject.org/mass-shooter-database/
Didn’t sound like it was a “conversation”.
I’m not sure what I’m more disturbed by – the fact that the library gave this collection of crackpots a platform and by extension some legitimacy, or the fact that so many neighbors attended to hear such sophistry.
(1) The library has a free-speech policy. No matter how loony, anyone can host events there. The policy is clear that allowing an event to occur isn’t an endorsement. (2) Don’t assume these are Westport residents. I doubt more than a handful are.
Why do folks believe “free speech” is unfettered? Slander is a crime and shouting fire in a crowded theater when there isn’t a fire isn’t protected by the first amendment either. Why should the PUBLic library be bamboozled into allowing the dissemination of lies, disinformation and hatred into the public sphere?
Alex Jones teaches his audience various mantras. One of them is, “They are coming for you.” Sounds like this group drinks the Kool-Aid. I have to say I wish you weren’t giving them a platform. They feast on it like cockroaches on feces. Without media, propagandists wither. This kind of coverage has always been dangerous. Our LGBQ teens – those with the highest rate of suicide due to feeling rejected by society – are reading this. Let’s not enable these hideous fear-mongers. Let’s show our kids who we are, not who we aren’t. Peace.
Thanks for the straight reporting, Dan. Unfortunate that many readers (including some commenters) just dismiss it all as crazy talk. (Just take a minute to check out Dr Peter McCullough’s bio, preferably learn why he has no affiliation despite having been high ranking cardiologist/internist at Baylor until being tarred and feathered for the sin of treating patients with COVID-19 rather than watch them die while waiting for a vaccine). As one who bristled every time Bernie Sanders vilified the pharmaceutical industry, I’ve reluctantly become concerned not only about the incompetence of the CDC but about more nefarious dominance by Pfizer of the medical establishment apparently to ensure that their vaccine (which I agree is largely beneficial) could be the sole salvation. Look at some of the facts and you may become a bit troubled.
Facts. LOL, you are associating with the wrong people if you believe that they are living in a fact-based world…Have you and your ilk found the pedophiles in the basement of the pizza place yet? Or has Hillary gotten away with it again.
They were furiously working the Hunter Biden angle for a long time but now they’re onto to the “something sounds fishy” about the “story” of the attempted murder of Paul Pelsoi. They latched onto that nonsense the next day.
“They are out to get you”. Sounds more like Qanon ravings rather than an intelligent presentation. But what is more disturbing is the size of the audience and what appears to be, from the picture and Dan’s report, rapt attention. The attendees should have walked out after the dribble became evident. Have we reverted back to snake oil sales and gullible buyers?
Agreed with every word of Michael N, Darcy H and Tom S… troubled by giving a platform and semblance of legitimacy to this collection if drivel, and the number of people willing to listen. Not to say that child abuse, drug addition, and pharma overreach are not real problems, but having these lunatics as the spokespeople greatly detracts from having any kind of legitimate discourse on these issues.
You sound more like the picture of “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil”. Evidence is all around you. But you’re not open to it because it’s outside your political mantra.
If claim it, then name it. What “evidence” Panos? Remember, you’re in the public square.
The library named the auditorium after million-dollar donor Christian Trefz, who has also donated thousands to Donald Trump, Devin Nunes, Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, Mitch McConnell, and the National Republican Congressional and Senatorial Committees. One of last night’s organizers claimed his group rented the room for $5,000. The library is all about making a haul when it can—politics be damned. The once-famous River of Names tile wall is still apparently drying out in a warehouse in Ridgefield. So much for small donors. Long live huge checks!
As a nurse, I call Bullshit. Work in that setting and then let’s see what you say. This nonsense has no place in Westport. I would hope we would be focusing on Real issues. Why were they given a platform in this intelligent, progressive community?
I think it’s important that Dan cover this, as absurd as these fear-mongering, anti-science, extreme right wing views seem to the majority of us (thank goodness). This mindset DOES exist right here in Westport and pretending otherwise doesn’t help.
We should educate ourselves, not blindly walk with our counterparts. In my opinion.
Our school board is under attack by this group, and we need to pay attention and understand their views if we are to prevent them from gaining traction.
Also, the library posted disclaimers saying they in no way supported the views of this group.
Kudos to Dan for attending to get the info. straight from the source, though accused of doing otherwise.
Here’s some reading about the erroneous, anti-science CHD and no left turn in education:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense
https://www.mediamatters.org/education/no-left-turn-education-leading-anti-critical-race-theory-group-frequently-pushes-toxic
Many people who have been killed? List them.
There haven’t been “many people” killed by the vaccines worldwide. This is dangerous misinformation and fear-mongering– and if you believe it, you’re the one who needs to do research. You should, of course, learn how first, as research isn’t depending completely on right-wing extremist voices and believing them.
I fear for our country.
Mr. Woog conveniently overlooked one of the big topics at the event which was child-grooming and pedophilia.
In this very town there are people who shove pornographic and paedophilic books into children’s faces in their public school.
And in this very state politicians in bed with pharmaceutical companies want to inject all kids with experimental drug despite alarmingly high rate of congestive heart failure and sudden deaths among young people.
And so the main message of the event was that we must protect our children.
Yes, I do fear for your children, Katerina, and think they should be protected from craziness.
I am working on it. Thank you for your concern.
And I hope you’re working on it with a qualified therapist.
Russ, so you agree with a vax mandate for an experimental vaccine, that doesn’t stop you from getting the virus, doesn’t stop you from transmitting it and now we see vaxxed people making up a greater percentage of severe Covid cases. Are you now a professional data and science denier or still just an amateur? Would still love to see who the 20,000 + people voted for in AZ who were either dead or living at a non-existent address? Oh yeah, that’s all imagination, hearsay and made up “far-right conspiracy theory! November 8th is COMING!
Panos.
1. There was no “vax mandate”. It never existed.
2. The approved vaccines were experimental while they were being studied. The science proved they were safe and effective. Those vaccines are no longer “experimental”, no matter how many times you deliberately and erroneously say otherwise.
3. No vaccine is 100% safe and effective for every person who take them. No medicine of any type is 100% effective and safe for every person who takes them. No medical procedure is without risk. Have you ever taken medicine? Have you ever had surgery?
5. Let the record show that despite endless recounts of the votes in Arizona, you only accept your desired outcome. “Listen, I just want you to find me 11,780 votes which is one more than we need. Gimme a break”.
Panos, exactly where are you getting your “facts” from?
Washington State, which has been at the forefront of research on Covid epidemiology, published last month that unvaccinated 12-34 year olds are 3.1 times more likely to be hospitalized than those who have completed the primary series. 35-64 year olds are 2.8 more likely to be hospitalized.
Further, viruses – in and of themselves – are a well-known risk factor for developing myocarditis. And a recent study published in the AHA journal Circulation shows, “People infected with COVID-19 before receiving a vaccine were 11 times more at risk for developing myocarditis within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. But that risk was cut in half if a person was infected after receiving at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.”
I agree with Stacie that it is important that Dan covered this. We have to understand who our neighbors are and what they are saying. There is a full on assault on our Board of Education and Superintendent. Its a small and very vocal minority that turns any and all issues in to “indoctrination, CRT, sexualization and pedophilia”. It’s disturbing , but thanks to the climate we have been in since Trumpism, they hear what they want to hear about everything. It’s the same group that put up anonymous “they’re coming for you” signs last year and now they are running for office, very sadly on the Republican ticket. I wish that the Republican party, both local and national , would divorce themselves from the far right but they are not. In the meantime, it’s important that we know who and what they are. I am thankful to Dan for attending and reporting as I did not want to give them my money or my time last night.
Negative Doc visit: a severe reaction to the vaccine changing pre-vax health status in a negative way prompting a doctor visit to provide corrective action. (Not my definition)
“Negative doctor visit” is not a real medical or scientific term. It just isn’t.
Dan – you provide no public service by restating the lunacy and spreading it further
I’m waiting for Rod Serling to come in “… The middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.”
Crazy stuff. Thanks for the great reporting Dan (and your willingness to visit this nonsense/ weirdness in person.)
I was there last night.
I have no desire to change anyone’s point of view. Or
even to tell you what my point of view is Some of the commenters feel that the library should not allow an opposing point of view to rent the hall.And this even though the major library donor was a Trumper. You self-called intelligent, progressive citizens should just settle down and relax. Nobody owns the world of thoughts and when they do, we are all in for another round of totalitarianism. Bet you hadn’t thought of THAT!
Conspiracy theorists are always around us spreading misinformation and distrust. The saddest thing about their theories, their hysterics, and their histrionics is that they usually do a great deal more harm to the world when they “just want to help.” It’s just another single story but I invite and encourage everyone to listen to what conspiracy theories about COVID, vaccines, hospitals, and the pharmaceutical industry did to just one family.
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/782/family-dig
There it is. “Both Sides”.
This forum, according to your report, does not sound like an “in depth critical discussion” as it purported to be. All one side.
Kind of like every single comment on this website, always…. some might even call it… an echo chamber?
There is an easy way to get rid of conspiracy theories. Prove them wrong! We know in Arizona that they were more than 5000 dead people who voted. We have the listed obituary or reported death for every single one of them. So the only thing left to do would be to see who all the dead people voted for. If it was an equal number on the left and the right than what we have is a conspiracy to say the election was fraudulent, however. if the vast majority were for one particular side, then we should also look into some of the other anomalies in the election like votes from addresses that don’t exist. This is how you build trust back into the system. Why are the Democrats so opposed to this restoration of election integrity?
Panos– This is why you’re so infuriating. This has, in fact, been proven wrong, but despite your claims and all evidence to the contrary, you continue to believe in a lie.
The only option is to not further engage you.
Actually, the Arizona attorney general found no evidence that “dead people voted.”
https://tucson.com/news/government-and-politics/elections/arizona-ag-finds-no-evidence-of-2020-voting-by-hundreds-of-dead-residents/article_1f1c3430-11e7-11ed-80f6-97bc1f6e13c8.html
It’s a weird type of entitlement where you think you can make wild claims like this, and then provide zero proof. When challenged, you attempt to shut down discussion.
You initially posted that you knew “many” people who died from COVID vaccines. You’ve already retreated to the vague, “serious issues.”
You can provide no proof because your claims are counterfactual.
And, of course, you’re lying.
No vax mandate? Tell that to the military, Hospital docs and nurses, pilots, 50% of major colleges and more I can’t name here. (The fake news even said more than 50 million people were subjected to vax mandates before some were defeated in court).Yes the national public mandate failed be causing it is against the constitution, And it really only failed because of levelheaded justices.
All this thread is why voting is so important. You cannot reason with a MAGA cult that sees pedophilia everywhere except when Jim Jordan or Matt Gaetz’s name come up or when Trump’s picture with Jeffrey Epstein is displayed. It’s all Marxism, pedophilia, and George Soros under the bed. Oh my!
Better they have a forum to speak so we are reminded that imbecilic conspiracy crackpots are here in our community just as anywhere else. Lest we forget and get complacent.
Forget arguing with these fools and just organize voting for rational candidates; people who believe in the rule of law, not mob violence like the January 6th insurrection. Demand peer reviewed research, not phony “cures” like the Frontline quacks tried to sell. Support our free and accountable press.
Show up for democracy!
In America, private businesses are free to define the terms of their employment. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to work there. Public schools, do, as you know, require all types of vaccinations against all types of diseases in or to to protect our most valuable assets, our children. Or would you prefer children to attend school where children attend who are unvaccinated against, measles, mumps, rubella, polio, seasonal flu and oh yes, Covid? Are you vaccinated mr. Panos? Are your children? And where were you on 1/6/21? You refusal to answer my last question suggests that you might have been breaking windows, assaulting men in blue in the US Capitol on 1/6/21. What say you?
In the last 50 years no vaccine with this many issues and this little effectiveness has remained in the marketplace. Check the 70s when the government pulled a flu vaccine that killed far less people and had far less detrimental effects. And Russ, any time you’re willing to let the general public see the 200,000 potentially fraudulent votes and see which candidate they went for, that might tell me you are fair and balanced. I think we know which direction you go. Nov 8th is coming!
In 2005, Westport teacher Paul Held was arrested on federal child pornography charges
Agents seized from his home on North Avenue more than 1,000 CDs with 3,000-4,000 child pornography images on each. 30,000 – 40,000 images At the time of his arrest, it was the largest collection of child pornography ever found in the state of CT.
Mr. Held taught for over 30 years in the Westport school system. Even back in the 1970s, junior high students knew his behavior was questionable. Without cell phones, students didn’t have a way of providing support for their claims.
The evening’s conversation encouraged parents to consider deeply where they need to reclaim authority for their children’s well being and education.
https://www.westportnow.com/former_westport_teacher_gets_10_years_on_child_porn_charges/
https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/settlements/09277/teacher-fondling.html
The Arizona Attorney General is being run out of office because of his willingness to allow the election fraud to stand w/o further investigation. Notice how he got crushed in the Republican Senate primary for being an election fraud denier. Don’t worry the truth will come out. November 8 is coming.
What are those credulous and deluded people – our neighbors – really afraid of?
And what effects/actions are their manipulators carefully and purposefully guiding/leading them to?
I am always interested to know if the anti-vaccine people got their childhood vaccines? If you get sick, do you go to the Dr.? Have you ever taken an antibiotic? Curious!
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Wow! Reading about that program gave me the worst Halloween scare of my life.
Dan,
As you say, your story may well be a depiction of what took place at the Trefz Forum last night.
Of course, it’s important to know what goes on in Westport. Indeed, sharing about what’s on the minds of Westport’s citizenry and what’s on the schedule of Westport’s institutions stands as a primary purpose of ‘06880.’
At the same time, your writing seems to give legitimacy to clear misinformation and unsubstantiated, even ridiculous, points of view.
Journalists have a responsibility to present information with a balanced perspective. And, to write from solid and supportable frameworks.
Misinformation is destroying our country.
By regurgitating what took place last night, the interpretation can be made that you’re endorsing the expressed views.
Reinforced misinformation stands as such an extreme problem in America, the foundation of our culture and our democracy hangs in the balance.
You have asked for examples.
*** In creating a headline which blares the name of the event, “American Conversation”: Vaccines, Pedophilia, Tyranny And More…,” you lend the event legitimacy — especially since America is invoked, and the Westport Public Library served as host. Additionally, including controversial words (‘pedophilia’ and ‘tyranny’) generates credibility for conspiracy based terms.
More objective headlines might have been…
“Library hosts conservative political dialogue,”
(or)
“Extreme views on tap at Trefz Forum.”
*** The first sentence of the second paragraph includes the phrase, ‘it promised to be an ‘in-depth analysis of critical issues…’
Dan, you make no mention of who holds this expectation. Perhaps, you took these words from the event’s promotional material. If this is the case, you haven’t divulged as much.
Repeating a stated intention, subtly implies that intention holds validity. No matter how unlikely, presenting an interpretation without attribution could indicate it to be your personal view.
In truth, I have no awareness of your politics.
Still, by framing the event as legitimate and worthy of attention, you give the appearance of endorsing what you’ve presented.
Since the relayed ideas are factually incorrect, stand as harmful to our town and to our country, and slander public institutions and public officials, well, there’s a real problem.
You could have written your story from a vastly different angle; one which emphasizes the questionable and unverifiable nature of the agenda — one which examines the Library’s decision to host such an event.
Even so, nowhere do you suggest the event’s content may be questionable. Nowhere do you offer objective information which might introduce factual counterpoints.
Who knows? Perhaps, you feel relaying a direct narrative makes a strong case to discredit an utterly ludicrous presentation.
I would suggest — even if inadvertently and with every good intention — you have given publicity and legitimacy to people who, and views which, undermine not only our magnificent political system, but also the quality and respect which characterizes the nobility of public discourse.
Still, carry on disseminating information in your own inimitable ways. You serve an important function.
You have my blessing.
And, in my view at least, God does not punish.
S/he only Loves.
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